Robo One Events

[Trebor]

Hello,

After looking at all the events going on in Robot combat here in the San Jose, Ca. area it seems to me that the Robo One field needs some help. Is anyone even remotely close to this area building one for the purpose of fighting it? I have a stock Kondo robot. If anyone has a robo one type of robot and would like to get together just to experiment with them interacting I would be open to that. I do not have a remote control so mine is tied to my laptop and a power supply.

[BMECH]

RoboGames in San Francisco - June 16-18, 2006! ...short notice I know, but there's still time to sign up to compete if interested. Regardless, anyone in the area, who is even slightly curious about robots, would miss out by not going. Hope to see you there. :D
http://www.robogames.net

...and for you Robonova-ers out there, read this!
http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/05/robonova_set_to.html#more

[BMECH]

Sorry if I'm imposing, but RoboGames 2006 is a little shy on participants this year and time is running out. For information on events, please visit
http://www.robogames.net

If there's even a possibility you can make it to San Francisco on the day of the event (june 16th - 18th), you should at least register now before it's too late! You can always withdraw later if you have to.
To register, click on the link below and then select the 'Create New Team' tab near the top of the page.
http://www.buildersdb.com/eventdetail.asp?eventid=132

The last I checked, there were only 5 entries for the Robo-One Wrestling category, 2 for Demonstration, 2 in Stair Climbing, and none in the Door Opening, the Eagle, or the Toss events. To view the updated list of RoboGames events and contenders, go here...
http://www.buildersdb.com/view_bots.asp?eventid=132

This would be a great chance to put your robot to the test. Win or loose, it will be a lot of fun and quite the learning experience. Not to mention idea swap central! It's not uncommon to see some of our favorite veterans from overseas competing and willing to share their knowledge. Remember, that's what the whole event is really about... the progression of robot technology. So in case some of you are worried about being embarrassed by your robot not performing up to par, there's no need. This is a fun event, full of friendly people! (and if the participation doesn't increase, there's a good chance you can walk away w/ a medal and other prizes!)

I really hope to see some of you there! :D

[Smokeypipeman]

Long time builder, finally almost happy with my design. Can not make RoboGames this year. Can not really visit it either since I am on the other side of the Pacific in Australia. But with luck I can make Japan in Sept. Although with servo design and sensors that might be pushing as well.

About when are you going to be holding the 2007 comp?

[tempusmaster]

Long time builder, finally almost happy with my design. Can not make RoboGames this year. Can not really visit it either since I am on the other side of the Pacific in Australia. But with luck I can make Japan in Sept. Although with servo design and sensors that might be pushing as well.

About when are you going to be holding the 2007 comp?

Are you still considering participating in ROBO-ONE 10 here in Japan in September? The registration database is currently open but entries close on August 31st (Japan time). From the robots entered so far it looks like this will be the best event ever.

[Smokeypipeman]

UNfortunately not. Since everything is a scratch build, there are parts that I have been reworking. Good news is I may have a working leg soon. So for now my Robo-One quest will have to be for March. That being the case Sth Korea would be part of the tour since they are within a week of each other(usually). At least I will have a few months to brush up on my Japanese.

Are you entering 10th Robo-One?

[Smokeypipeman]

Are there any Robo-one vids from Robogames avaliable?

[tempusmaster]

UNfortunately not. Since everything is a scratch build, there are parts that I have been reworking. Good news is I may have a working leg soon. So for now my Robo-One quest will have to be for March.
That will be great. The March events are usually held in Tokyo, which is a lot easier logistically.

There has been some talk about tightening up the regulations and format starting next year. We had around 70 entries for the ROBO-ONE J competition, and there are already 36 robots entered for the ROBO-ONE 10 event with about two weeks more to register. Sooner or later they will have to change to regional events with the top winners going on to compete in the Nationals.

That being the case Sth Korea would be part of the tour since they are within a week of each other(usually). At least I will have a few months to brush up on my Japanese.
Are you entering 10th Robo-One?
Perhaps... I'm still waiting for some parts that were promised for "mid-August". If they show up in the next few days I might be able to make enough progress to have confidence in signing up before the entries close at the end of the month.

Matt's already registered Rook's Pawn, so there will be at least one "Westerner" entered. !:')

[tempusmaster]

Are there any Robo-one vids from Robogames avaliable?
There aren't many around. I've posted two on Robots Dreams contributed by Matt that you may have already seen. Other than that I haven't been able to dig up any.

[Smokeypipeman]

I am rather interested in seeing how a Robo-Nova performs at Robo-One. I think it has good reliability since it is a production model. But I still think the Home-designed Japanese robots will beat it(as long as they do not break down). But it a lot of cases it comes down to control. When I was at the 4th Robo-one I saw quite a few good robots lose because their operators did not seem familiar with the movement.

Mr Bauer should do well though with the modifications he has made, and reliability.

I shall have to look at the vids for the last contest then give you my prediction of the final 3.

[tempusmaster]

I am rather interested in seeing how a Robo-Nova performs at Robo-One. I think it has good reliability since it is a production model.

A stock RoboNova is really ROBO-ONE J class. There were some entered in the ROBO-ONE J 7 event about two weeks ago, though they had some modifications. They did reasonably well at that level, but if my memory is correct none of them made it past the Demonstration phase to compete in the Finals.

But I still think the Home-designed Japanese robots will beat it(as long as they do not break down).

Definitely. The custom designs are typically running high voltage and high torque servos - it's not unusual for them to be equipped with KRS-4014 servos which are at least 4X more powerful than the Robonova. And they're designed from the ground up to compete specifically in ROBO-ONE. Sometimes the frames (after you remove all the costumes) look really weird (Toku Toku Maru or Afro for example) compared to a Robonova's humanoid shape, but it gives them a real advantage during the competition.

But it a lot of cases it comes down to control.

That used to be more true in the past than it has been recently. Since only the top designs make it past the Demonstration event the few that do make it to the Finals are usually quite experienced.

That's not to say that some entries don't have control issues - they do, especially the people that enter just to say that they have competed or some of the company sponsored entries that are just there to generate PR. But it would be unusual for them to do well enough to make the cut and come back the second day for the Finals.

When I was at the 4th Robo-one I saw quite a few good robots lose because their operators did not seem familiar with the movement.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how much progress they've made over the past couple years.

Mr Bauer should do well though with the modifications he has made, and reliability.

His robot still has a Hitec/Robonova logo, controller board, and servos (though some of them have been upgraded) but I think he must have re-engineered or completely customized everything else.

I shall have to look at the vids for the last contest then give you my prediction of the final 3.
I'll look forward to it. Perhaps we should start a pool....

[Smokeypipeman]

Do you have any pics of Brownie04's feet. The Robo-one website mentions toes. I would like to see if they are along the same lines as mine. Toe sections are a good step forward but to be used properly design changes must be used. At the moment I would say that the performance increase will be slight. But then again I have not seen it in action. It may have a few of the other features required.

Currently I am working on the leg section with a toe section. All joints are off bearing to take the stress off the servos. The servos are an experimental idea. The theory is to have better response, a shock absorption effect and low stress resulting in no mantainence and operationally non-destructable. The only problem in power. Not sure what is required yet.

My round-up of the current robots entered into the 10th contest is Brownie04(I like the look of it). Then Marine Bioluminescence, I like the guy. Does he still dress up with the cape. But think the true ranking for these robots will be 4th and 9th.

[tempusmaster]

Do you have any pics of Brownie04's feet.


According to the database ROBO-ONE 10 will be the first event for Brownie04. I'll take a look to see what I have on its previous generations at home over the weekend.

The Robo-one website mentions toes. I would like to see if they are along the same lines as mine. Toe sections are a good step forward but to be used properly design changes must be used. At the moment I would say that the performance increase will be slight. But then again I have not seen it in action. It may have a few of the other features required.

Currently I am working on the leg section with a toe section. All joints are off bearing to take the stress off the servos. The servos are an experimental idea. The theory is to have better response, a shock absorption effect and low stress resulting in no mantainence and operationally non-destructable. The only problem in power. Not sure what is required yet.

People have tried all different types of designs, with varied results. The most effective toe design I've seen so far is Black Seed by Shibata-san. He let me operate it for a while during one of the practice sessions in Tokyo. You should be able to get a feel for it from the video clip in this post (http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/04/roboone_robot_p.html).

My round-up of the current robots entered into the 10th contest is Brownie04(I like the look of it).

It does look neat. I like it too. We'll see what the judges think...

Then Marine Bioluminescence, I like the guy. Does he still dress up with the cape. But think the true ranking for these robots will be 4th and 9th.
Which entry? Perhaps I'm missing something, but "Marine Bioluminescence" doesn't ring a bell for me. Do you have a url, or the ROBO-ONE database number?

I thought you might be referring to the Majingaa team, but they haven't submitted their official entry yet - at least not as of 10:00 pm last night.

[Smokeypipeman]

Marine Bioluminescence
Entry No. 1

The name maybe incorrect because I am translating the site thru Altavista Babelfish. http://www.geocities.jp/dr_giy/

Black seed. I do not recall seeing any videos of it. It looks like an interesting design. Not exactly the toe sections I was talking about though. Black Seed did well in the last contest, in the top 8. They might rank even better this year.

The other one I really want to see is Omni-Zero. From what I have seen it is the best moving robot around, the only drawback is that it lacks weight to really push the others around.

[tempusmaster]

Marine Bioluminescence
Entry No. 1


Yokozuna Great Shiranui!

I never would have guessed from that translation. :o

Dr. GIY is great - one of the best. He was one of the top RC model car fanatics here before he got hooked on robotics.

He's got three possible robots lined up for ROBO-ONE 10 - the current "Yokozuna Great" that everyone knows, a new version that he's been working on and may have ready in time, and a MANOI AT01 based robot (he is one of the advisors to Kyosho on the MANOI project.

The name maybe incorrect because I am translating the site thru Altavista Babelfish. http://www.geocities.jp/dr_giy/

Babelfish does pretty well, usually better than the Google translations, but names don't usually translate well.

Black seed. I do not recall seeing any videos of it. It looks like an interesting design. Not exactly the toe sections I was talking about though. Black Seed did well in the last contest, in the top 8. They might rank even better this year.

Shibata has some great ideas, and like some of the other top guys, he's redesigned his robot for ROBO-ONE 10. Technically, I think he could win. But, from a strategy and mental perspective it isn't going to happen. Especially given his age, attitude, and the fact that he works for Kondo under some of the other guys. Although he could probably beat them, he won't, or won't allow himself to. Just my opinion.

The other one I really want to see is Omni-Zero. From what I have seen it is the best moving robot around, the only drawback is that it lacks weight to really push the others around.
Maeda has also come up with a new design for the ROBO-ONE 10 OmniZero. He mentioned that this will be the 10th major redesign since the ROBO-ONE competitions started. I'm really curious to see what improvements he has made. ;)

[HarryBotter]

Thanks for the fascinating discussion guys!

I've been trying to keep up with the robo-one scene and this thread tells me that I'm getting behind. The movement routines on "Black Seed" are just awesome.

And toes???? Would they be used for positional info or balance?

Cheers, Harry

[tempusmaster]

The other one I really want to see is Omni-Zero. From what I have seen it is the best moving robot around, the only drawback is that it lacks weight to really push the others around.
Talking about toes and feet, Maeda did some interesting foot/sole mods on OmniZero for the Eagle competition in Kawasaki a few weeks ago. :eek:

For the Gangway section of the course (very narrow bridge with a tough 90 degree turn) he added optical sensors and turned the robot into a quasi-line follower. And for the stairs he added what you might call "toes" or shock absorbers. They appear to be passive, spring loaded, kind of like push buttons for electrical equipment. This allowed OmniZero to walk straight up the stairs with no problem since it was actually walking 'across' the steps instead of stepping flatly on each one.

Here's a photo of the mods:

http://www.1mm.jp/m/robo20060802c.jpg

And a post with a video showing how it worked out:

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/08/roboone_special_3.html

Of course, he's a 'pro' not a hobbyist.

[tempusmaster]

Thanks for the fascinating discussion guys!

You're certainly welcome. It's all about sharing and building community. Feel free to jump in - the water's fine.

I've been trying to keep up with the robo-one scene and this thread tells me that I'm getting behind. The movement routines on "Black Seed" are just awesome.

There has been tremendous progress over the past two years and it seems to be accelerating rapidly. At the first events I went to the robots spent most of the time falling down and trying to pick themselves back up. It's come a long, long way in a very short period of time. It's an absolute blast. :D

And toes???? Would they be used for positional info or balance?


Different people have different approaches, though almost all of the robots still have pretty flat soles at this point. Sooner or later, someone's going to come up with a new and novel design, and blow away the competition for a while.

[HarryBotter]

You're certainly welcome. It's all about sharing and building community. Feel free to jump in - the water's fine.

Thanks for the invitation, I'm a little reluctant to dilute the content of this thread.

I'm in a bit of a dillema. I'm a hobbyist and have been trying to find the right time to jump into the robo-one scene.

I've built a couple of six servo humanoids, first SixPac and just recently a BRAT from Lynxmotion but all that has done is whet my appetite further for more DOF.

Six months ago I was thinking that 10 Kg-cm servos were as much as I would ever need and I came close to purchasing either a Bioloid or Megarobotics kit. Now of course, I think that more power is necessary and I'm trying to get a handle on how much I need (and how much I can afford).

I've got a feeling that this is going to end up like the computer market where improvements are ongoing and the purchase made last year is obsolete. In that case the best time to jump in is now and buy the best you can afford.

Just wish I had more money!

Cheers, Harry

[Smokeypipeman]

Yes Servos are the biggest cost. Your are looking for about at least 3x power to weight. But it is a case of the bigger the better. Most builders use 20kg servos. A few have used 45kg servos.

If your feeling creative you could always get a high torque motor that will be cheaper but require a bit of playing around

[tempusmaster]

But it is a case of the bigger the better.

Something like this perhaps:

http://isobe.typepad.com/photos/roboone_2005/robo_one_0051.jpg

That's from the ROBO-ONE 7 event held here in Tokyo in March, 2005 (more here (http://www.robots-dreams.com/2005/03/roboone_2005_pa.html)). The huge robot was a Korean entry that 'legally' met the regulations if not the spirit of the competition. They let it compete, but tightened up the rules afterwards to keep the competitions fair and equitable.

[Smokeypipeman]

I meant more torque in the servos. Although I do like to size up the big heavier Robots. I estimate my robot is going to be 80cm, and are the 7kg mark. So it will be on that fine line where it will be within the rules, or a little too big. Depending on the changes to the rules next year.

If I can get it to move, I will get some pics together. That will be a few weeks though.

[Smokeypipeman]

3-2. Size and weight of the robot 3-2-1. size of the robot makes below 120cm above height 20cm. 3-2-2. Especially it does not stipulate the weight of the robot.

Safe for the moment

[HarryBotter]

The huge robot was a Korean entry that 'legally' met the regulations if not the spirit of the competition. They let it compete, but tightened up the rules afterwards to keep the competitions fair and equitable.

LOL! :D This could be the robotic representation of that great biblical battle (where the little guy won). I'm assuming this little fellow didn't receive any divine help. I shouldn't laugh, I wouldn't want to be looking up at that opponent.

Thanks for the picture, Harry

[HarryBotter]

Yes Servos are the biggest cost. Your are looking for about at least 3x power to weight.

What do you mean by that? Certainly not 6 Kg servos for a 2 Kg robot?

Most builders use 20kg servos. A few have used 45kg servos.

I've been looking at the Kondo 20 Kg-cm servos and it looks like a minimum of $3000 (or more) just for the servos. Unfortunately I just can't afford that unless that robot is good for life. And that's just not so. :) I may just have to get into the AI 1001s or Ax-12s and hope that the larger servos get cheaper as production volumes increase.

Cheers, Harry

[tempusmaster]

3-2. Size and weight of the robot 3-2-1. size of the robot makes below 120cm above height 20cm. 3-2-2. Especially it does not stipulate the weight of the robot.

Safe for the moment

They usually start dropping hints well in advance of any rule change, so as soon as I hear any rumors about changes they get posted on Robots Dreams (http://www.robots-dreams.com/roboone/index.html). We also going to try and keep the 'unofficial' English regulations (http://www.robots-dreams.com/files/robo_one_rules_and_regulations_revised.pdf) uptodate, thanks to Duncan.

[Smokeypipeman]

6kg on 2 kg would be about the min to get it moving reasonable.

What are the 5 performance values on the lower right side of the pic?

http://www.robots-dreams.com/Image00732.jpg

[HarryBotter]

6kg on 2 kg would be about the min to get it moving reasonable.

Got it, the rule provides a practical limit. Works but uninspiring. What would your suggestion be for a minimum value for an entry level robot that could compete favorably in the demonstration events?

What are the 5 performance values on the lower right side of the pic?

http://www.robots-dreams.com/Image00732.jpg

I haven't a clue as to what that picture represents. If there is something of value could someone please chime in?

Tempusmaster, thanks for the English version of the regulations , it was an interesting read.

Cheers, Harry

[Smokeypipeman]

About 15kg would be minimum. But If you can put together some thing small enough you could get away with 10kg. Small would be under 20 - 25cm.

2325-RV reforming
http://robo-one.com/roboone/roboone7player.php entry number 74 used 45kg servos as I recall. Not sure if it was this bot or a later one. I have a vid somewhere of them fanning down the bot between rounds. I like the use of the microsoft mouse as a head.

With the pic in my previous comment. I was actually asking Tempusmaster since it is from the robots-dreams website. I would be rather interested in seeing the show as well.

Tempusmaster do you have a copy of it that you would be able to share?

[tempusmaster]

About 15kg would be minimum. But If you can put together some thing small enough you could get away with 10kg. Small would be under 20 - 25cm.

True enough. 10 kg is typically considered to be ROBO-ONE J class, though you do find some players that do fairly well in the regular competition with 10 kg. or so. Some of them even enter both levels with the same robot.

2325-RV reforming
http://robo-one.com/roboone/roboone7player.php entry number 74 used 45kg servos as I recall. Not sure if it was this bot or a later one. I have a vid somewhere of them fanning down the bot between rounds.

Some of them do use 40 kg servos (KRS-4014). It's a design trade-off. And, as you mention, they do fan them and even use spray coolant to keep the motors from burning out, especially when they only have a few minutes between rounds.

I like the use of the microsoft mouse as a head.

Me too. It has a lot more style than the Cateye bicycle lamps used by some of the robots (don't tell anyone I said that. ;) ).

With the pic in my previous comment. I was actually asking Tempusmaster since it is from the robots-dreams website.

Going back to your previous question, the charts are kind of hokey and not based on any scientific measurements. I think they were the TV producer's idea. Anyway, they do give a reasonable sense of how the robots compare.

Starting on the far left and going clockwise, the parameters are Speed, Power (at the 12 o'clock position), Balance, and I'm not sure about the two on the bottom... I'll have to ask one of my friends tomorrow.

I would be rather interested in seeing the show as well.

Tempusmaster do you have a copy of it that you would be able to share?
Since this is a public forum, my 'official' answer has to be no...

But, if you were to look at these links, that I have nothing to do with, you might find what you're looking for:

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIpKcnuwogQ)

Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrquv2m0Z0g)

Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKz6I6uMyNg)

:cool:

[HarryBotter]

Tempusmaster, thanks so much for those video links, truely astounding! I just wish I understood Japanese, the contestants and announcers sure did a lot of laughing. :)

From what I gather, The Bioloid kit may be the way to go for me. All other things being equal, the AX-12 servos can be overvolted to 10 volts to get 16.5 Kg-cm while the AI-1001s produce 10 Kg-cm at 9.5 v. Getting closer!

Thanks for the help, Harry

[tempusmaster]

Tempusmaster, thanks so much for those video links, truely astounding! I just wish I understood Japanese, the contestants and announcers sure did a lot of laughing. :)

Keep in mind that it's a television program, not the real thing. The Japanese producers usually make things overly dramatic, or they go for slapstick comedy. The challenges in that particular program were totally fabricated, but at least they did a pretty good job of showing what the robots are capable of.

We just had the ROBO-ONE Special competition here a couple weekends ago. I haven't gotten around to posting videos of all the events, but here are a few that I have managed to find the time to put together:

The "Eagle" - basically a robot obstacle course-

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/08/roboone_special_2.html

The "Ball" - totally autonomous -

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/08/roboone_special_4.html


From what I gather, The Bioloid kit may be the way to go for me. All other things being equal, the AX-12 servos can be overvolted to 10 volts to get 16.5 Kg-cm while the AI-1001s produce 10 Kg-cm at 9.5 v. Getting closer!


I don't really have any hands-on experience with it, so I can't say one way or the other. There is a very active Bioloid group on the Robosavvy forums. They've managed to take apart and hack the Bioloid quite a bit. "Pev" just shared a hack that he did to add BlueTooth control capability to the Bioloid. If you have any questions about the kit, that forum would be an excellent place to start.

[Smokeypipeman]

I was treated to the prototype AI class servo when I was in Japan a few years ago. The AI servo is a bit light weight. Not really a contest servo. The advantage is that it is modular, so you can link them to each other in series. The servo horn is effectively in the middle of the unit. The programmer program has the ability to key-frame. Bit like 3D studio and other graphics programs.

I just did some reading.

And well the AX-12 are similar in their function. Modular and all that. So it will be similar to use

AX-12 servos
http://www.tribotix.com/Products/Robotis/Robotis.htm
AI servos
http://www.tribotix.com/Products/Megarobotics/Megarobotics.htm


Have not looked at the vids yet. Waiting for POE2 for BF2 to download. 1 gig of fun

[Smokeypipeman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pD4w9z7t04

Metalic Fighter vs 2325

[HarryBotter]

The AI servo is a bit light weight. Not really a contest servo. The advantage is that it is modular, so you can link them to each other in series. The servo horn is effectively in the middle of the unit. The programmer program has the ability to key-frame. Bit like 3D studio and other graphics programs.

AX-12 servos
http://www.tribotix.com/Products/Robotis/Robotis.htm
AI servos
http://www.tribotix.com/Products/Megarobotics/Megarobotics.htm

Have not looked at the vids yet.

The head the robotics department at our local university is quite involved in the robotic soccer scene and he likes the AI 1001, for that form of competition at least. Obviously the demands out on a servo by robo-one competion would be much more extreme.

I've spent considerable time of the Tribotix website and have viewed all the videos. One of the better Bioloid videos is actually on the "Robot" website. It's the puppy video, although you should note it's quite big.

http://www.botmag.com/articles/robotis_bioloid_edutainment_robot_kit.shtml

Cheers, Harry

[HarryBotter]

We just had the ROBO-ONE Special competition here a couple weekends ago. I haven't gotten around to posting videos of all the events, but here are a few that I have managed to find the time to put together:

I'll be watching for that!

The "Eagle" - basically a robot obstacle course-

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/08/roboone_special_2.html

The "Ball" - totally autonomous -

http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/08/roboone_special_4.html

I don't really have any hands-on experience with it, so I can't say one way or the other. There is a very active Bioloid group on the Robosavvy forums. They've managed to take apart and hack the Bioloid quite a bit. "Pev" just shared a hack that he did to add BlueTooth control capability to the Bioloid. If you have any questions about the kit, that forum would be an excellent place to start.

I looked at all the videos on your site a few hours ago and saw the eagle and ball videos. The ball was especially interesting since my interest is strictly into autonomous operation. I leave the RC aspect entirely with my RC planes and helicopters. :)

I've also been an active lurker on the Robosavvy site and have followed all of Pev's inovative developments. There are a number of hobbyists sharing new insights onthe site...it's a good.

Thanks, Harry

[tempusmaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pD4w9z7t04

Metalic Fighter vs 2325
Really nice moves. Thanks for sharing it.
I'll have to hunt around and see if I can find more about 2325.

[Smokeypipeman]

I should look for my long forgotten DVD's. As I recall there is a few years worth of fights on them.

Give me a few days

[Smokeypipeman]

Not Robo-one, but it could be an interesting future project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCPizDLIiek&mode=related&search=

[tempusmaster]

Not Robo-one, but it could be an interesting future project

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCPizDLIiek&mode=related&search=
That's great! :eek:

Both my wife and I really enjoyed the Lorelei movie that's mentioned at the beginning of the clip when it first came out here in Japan. I showed her your video link last night. Neither of us had heard of 400 series, so it started some really interesting discussions. Thanks!

[Smokeypipeman]

I never heard of them either. I was looking for some WWI movies because I have to animate a scene. Came across the Japanese I-400. Tried to find more info and found out the British, French and Italians built some a few years before. I had no idea Japan had built the biggest submarine during WWII. All I ever heard about were the midget submarines. Too bad they were all destroyed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine_aircraft_carrier

http://www.pacerfarm.org/i-400/

[Smokeypipeman]

Back to Robo-one

Now that is a prize
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fuc0079.jp%2fhy2m_gundam_2006.ht ml

Cool designs

Layed X "entry 45"

KUMATARO "entry 154"

[tempusmaster]

Back to Robo-one

Now that is a prize
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fuc0079.jp%2fhy2m_gundam_2006.ht ml

She is pretty cool isn't she... the Gundam model isn't bad either. :)

You may have already seen this photo set, but my wife and I spent last Sunday at the Bandai Character/Gundam museum in Matsudo -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/95721430@N00/sets/72157594253190408/


Cool designs

Layed X "entry 45"

Asurada is really a showman. Layered-X isn't very competitive in the ring - he's too top heavy and slow, but the design is so unusual that it really impresses everyone.

For ROBO-ONE J 7 he took a KHR-2HV kit and redid the entire thing out of clear plastic with LED lighting. Pretty striking. There's a short segment showing it in the video I posted on Robots Dreams yesterday.


KUMATARO "entry 154"

Cute as a button, as they say. Under the covers it's a KHR-2HV with a few mods. It's Hikima's. She works for Nakagawa at RT in Akihabara, and designed the robot claw they sell for use with the KHR-1 and as a standalone device like Armatron.

[Smokeypipeman]

I think the problem with Layered-X is that Asurada is not one with his robot. But that is a problem with many. Also Asurada should use Layered-X like Layered-X. He seems to fight like it is a normal robot in the fights and use the morphing in the demo. If he used its unique moves in a fight it could win quite a few.

Just a few more day then all the Robots will be confirmed. Then it will be time to start the "Top Eight" list.

[Smokeypipeman]

Finally some proof.

Back desk on the left, black shirt, hat on table. Yes, token white guy. Me...

http://www.majingaa.com/album/robo-one-4/robo-one-4-09.jpg/image_large

Next year I will be back.

[tempusmaster]

Finally some proof.

Back desk on the left, black shirt, hat on table. Yes, token white guy. Me...

http://www.majingaa.com/album/robo-one-4/robo-one-4-09.jpg/image_large

Next year I will be back.

Cool. ROBO-ONE 4. Looks like the Kawasaki venue.

See if you can find me in this photo (it shouldn't be too hard):

http://isobe.typepad.com/khr1/robo_2Done_2Dgroup_2D001.jpg

:D

[Smokeypipeman]

It just occured to me. Another token white guy. I was always wondering who the silver haired gentleman was. I thought he was a groupie. I was slightly confused with "Which one is you in the pic", so I looked up "About" on your website.

So have your parts come in yet. And which kit have you decided on?

I have almost finished my knee joint. Just have to program it. I am sure many are wondering why it is taking so long. The best definition I can give is that it is a 3-phase servo. A home-job. So please be patient.

[tempusmaster]

It just occured to me. Another token white guy.

Everyone seems very open and accepting, and I know several other non-Japanese that play or are starting to play an active role.

I was always wondering who the silver haired gentleman was. I thought he was a groupie.

Nothing wrong with me wearing that label proudly as well. ;)

I was slightly confused with "Which one is you in the pic", so I looked up "About" on your website.

It's getting pretty old and out of date now. I should update it.

So have your parts come in yet. And which kit have you decided on?

I have a KHR-1 and modified the legs with KRS-2350's for more torque.

The newest addition to my robot stable arrived late Thursday night, and I'm still reading through the Japanese assembly manual to get a little bit more comfortable with the challenge before I tackle putting it together. The kit hasn't been released for sale commercially yet and I'm waiting for official permission from the manufacturer before I disclose any details or post about it on Robots Dreams.

I have almost finished my knee joint. Just have to program it. I am sure many are wondering why it is taking so long. The best definition I can give is that it is a 3-phase servo. A home-job. So please be patient.
It's always a challenge, and always takes longer than we think it will, or people expect.

Anyway, let me know when you're ready to show anything. I'm really curious, as usual. :)

[Smokeypipeman]

It is alive!

Well not quite. I hooked it up to a PC power supply and got some slight movement. I suspect I have too much friction. Also I need the controller so it runs through the proper sequence.

[tempusmaster]

It is alive!

Well not quite. I hooked it up to a PC power supply and got some slight movement. I suspect I have too much friction. Also I need the controller so it runs through the proper sequence.

Sounds great. Movement beats smoke everytime.

I just got approval to talk about my project -

http://www.robots-dreams.com/manoi_robot_chart.jpg

:cool:

Not much to tell yet, just lots of parts and 104 pages of Japanese assembly diagrams (http://www.robots-dreams.com/2006/09/project_m_manoi.html).

[HarryBotter]

Congrats on becoming one of the Manoi beta testers!

I've been eagerly awaiting the appearance of Manoi for quite some time now. This kit appears to be a significant step in the further development of humanoids. Are you going to document the build on your site?

I checked out your "About" link too and found a bit of commonality. I too remember standing out in my backyard as a teenager marveling at the passage of Sputnik overhead. :)

I vow to become a member of this Robo-One builders group before the year ends!

Cheers, Harry

[tempusmaster]

Congrats on becoming one of the Manoi beta testers!

Thanks. Given that they aren't distributing the product outside of Japan, at least in the beginning, I was very pleased to be selected to participate in the beta program.

I've been eagerly awaiting the appearance of Manoi for quite some time now.

Definitely. Me too. :)

This kit appears to be a significant step in the further development of humanoids.

From a technical perspective the robot is certainly great, but not earthshaking in that some custom ROBO-ONE designs have been able to perform at the same level for quite a while. The really breakthrough, IMHO, is making that level of performance available to the public at a fairly reasonable price.

When I built my KHR-1, which is an excellent kit, it was pretty obvious that it had been designed by hobbyist engineers and meant for people that already knew a lot about humanoid robotics. In comparision, the AT01 is like a high-end RC car kit. The amount of attention they have paid to even small details is really refreshing.


Are you going to document the build on your site?

To some level. I'm taking a lot of photos, notes, and videos, and have already begun posting regular progress reports. At some point I may put together a step by step build report if there is enough interest, but right now I'm focused on completing the build and providing feedback to Kyosho as a part of the beta.

I checked out your "About" link too and found a bit of commonality. I too remember standing out in my backyard as a teenager marveling at the passage of Sputnik overhead. :)

Changed my life totally.

Sidebar: How do we generate the same type of event or influence to encourage young people today to enjoy engineering and robotics?


I vow to become a member of this Robo-One builders group before the year ends!

I'm going to bookmark that, and hold you too it! ;)

[HarryBotter]

Changed my life totally.
I missed The Nudge completely and made some dumb career choices. Then again the path led me to where I am now and I'm enjoying some of the best days of my life.

Sidebar: How do we generate the same type of event or influence to encourage young people today to enjoy engineering and robotics?I think that your continued involvement in your website, the efforts of people like Tom along with the growth of groups like FIRST can't help but bring young people into the field. Regarding the Japanese, it seems like they've got work to do in filling some other vacancies. Robotics over there, at least from my vantage point, looks full! :)


I'm going to bookmark that, and hold you too it! ;)LOL! Good one! Like I may have mentioned, my long term goal is to stay abreast of the hobby humanoid market and I'm starting to see some slippage. :) I've been sitting on the fence waiting for some stabilization in servos types, sizes and cost and the time may have come when the next big change is a ways down the road.

Cheers, Harry